Ray was at Ohio State as provost in 2001, was involved with Tressel's hiring in Columbus.
COLUMBUS, Ohio - In a phone interview with The Plain Dealer today, Oregon State University president Ed Ray didn't back off his "hanging judge" comment when it comes to the punishment he might hand to Ohio State coach Jim Tressel for his NCAA violations.
But the former Ohio State provost, who was involved with Tressel's hiring in 2001 before leaving Ohio State in 2003, made the point that it's a good thing the decision isn't up to him.
"I am pretty judgmental and pretty hard about these things, if these things have been done," Ray said. "The context I said it in is that it's a good thing I'm not on the Infractions Committee. Whenever anyone crosses the line, I tend to be judgmental and hard about it, but it's a good thing we have a lot of experienced people on the committee to look at it and focus on the facts and do what they believe is right, rather than have me from 2,500 miles away do it."
Ray's comments to The Oregonian, published Thursday, added another layer to the discussion about Tressel's future, with someone who knows the coach clearly believing his actions - not informing his bosses for nine months about his players selling memorabilia in violation of NCAA rules, while forwarding that information on to Terrelle Pryor's mentor - warrant strict penalties.
Ray said then:
"If I were in their position, I'd be a hanging judge. ... I think there are lines you don't cross in your own life.... I'm not a big mercy guy. I'm not a big understander of extenuating circumstances. We all sort of engage in thinking about situational ethics. But I'm kinda old-school. And I think you're either ethical or you're not ethical."
He backed up those feelings today.
"If it is true, it's very, very serious, and it needs to be dealt with in a very serious way," Ray said. "We have the Infractions Committee that knows how to weigh and measure the degree of severity. But to purport that somebody knows about improper behavior and doesn't report it for a period of time and shares it with some people and not other people and doesn't go through the proper channels, that's a very serious matter.
"So much of what determines the integrity of the whole system is that people come forward when they know something improper has happened. People make mistakes or they do wrong things, but very often things are self-reported because everyone is trying to get it right. Everyone makes mistakes, but if people aren't forthright, then the system isn't going to work."
Ohio State did self-report the findings about both the players and Tressel. But Tressel, as an individual, never came forward to admit his previous knowledge until Ohio State found the emails that informed Tressel of the situation starting last April.
Ray had praised Tressel in his quotes to The Oregonian as well, but he added today that he believes Tressel's favorable reputation could be considered when the NCAA makes its ruling.
And while Ray hedged several times today about waiting for the allegations against Tressel to be known, they are already known. Ohio State and Tressel have admitted to them. What remains is the punishment, and that's there the discussion is most relevant.
"I have about as much experience as a judge as you do, but let me give you my gut reaction," Ray said. "When anything goes to any kind of trial or final decision, you do look for mitigating circumstances, and courts do show leniency in some cases and not in others.
"If you've broken the rule, you've broken the rule. I don't buy extenuating circumstances, so it's a matter of whether the rule was broken, yes or now. But even once that has happened, there is a question of what are the remedies.
". . .I think if someone has a life's work that says this is wrong and this shouldn't have happened, but this person is remorseful about that, it's not a matter of indifference what kind of person they have been for the last 40 or 50 years. In any kind of legal proceeding, that always gets looked at.
"I think you do look at the person you're looking at and say, 'Is this part of an ongoing pattern of playing things close to the line and finally getting caught, or is this a person that anyone who ever had anything to do with him said this is a good person who has been a positive force in the community?' In the normal scheme of things, that does lead to perhaps less of a harsh outcome than if you have the feeling that this is a person who should have gotten caught a long time ago.
". . .Everything I know and I have seen that has anything to do with Jim Tressel is incredibly positive and would lead me to, as it does ultimately, to be startled that the allegations that have been made could possibly be true."
But they are.
"The Jim Tressel I know is such a good person, I hope that somehow this situations isn't what it appears to be, I really do. Because I really think he's such a terrific person, it's very hard to fathom where we are."