J.T. Barrett and Joe Burrow came to Ohio State with arm strength questions, but that's something Ohio State is OK with scouting quarterbacks. Watch video
COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Watch Dwayne Haskins' highlight tape and you'll see the ball pop out of his hand the way you would expect it to.
He's a big-bodied quarterback prospect, considered one of the best in the country at his position, and he can really sling it.
Urban Meyer saw it. He called it some of the best arm strength he's seen from a high school quarterback. That's why Meyer and his staff worked hard to flip Haskins from Maryland to Ohio State late in the 2016 recruiting cycle, and why Haskins has a real shot at winning the No. 2 quarterback job behind J.T. Barrett this summer.
None of that should be surprising either. Of course Meyer, in his quest to get the best athletes to Ohio State, would want a top-flight quarterback with a plus-arm and all the intangibles.
Except that's not always the case.
If Haskins finds himself No. 3 on the depth chart this fall -- which seems likely unless the Buckeyes are comfortable with a true freshman backup -- he'll be behind a pair of guys who don't possess the strongest arms.
Meyer has publicly voiced concerns about the arm strength of Barrett in the past, though it's less of an issue now. As recently as the spring game, Meyer said he was concerned with the arm strength of current No. 2 Joe Burrow. And each time Meyer says something like that, it sounds strange.
Why recruit quarterbacks if you're concerned about their arm strength? Why be willing to concede that seemingly very important piece of the position when all you're trying to do is bring the best football players to Ohio State?
Meyer has his reasons.
"Every great quarterback, and we've had great ones, the No. 1 characteristic is competitive spirit," Meyer said. "No. 2 is toughness. No. 3 is ability to lead. No. 4 is intelligence. No. 5 is ability to extend a play. Notice I never said anything about arm strength or delivery."
It was noticed. Maybe arm strength and delivery are Nos. 6 and 7. Even if they are that seems pretty far down the list for a team looking to compete with college football's elite every year.
Those two things are important to Meyer. He wouldn't issue those public concerns about his quarterback's arm strength if they weren't. So when there's an opportunity to get a kid who has all those intangibles plus the strong arm, Meyer will go get him -- see Haskins.
That kind of prospect is rare, though.
There are a limited number of quarterbacks who leave high school with college-ready arms, and even fewer who possess that plus everything else Meyer listed. When it does happen, everybody wants that quarterback and only one team gets him. Sometimes it's Ohio State (Haskins), and sometimes it's not (Deshaun Watson).
While it may be easy for some coaches to get infatuated with the big arm and worry about the other stuff later, Meyer takes a different approach. Ohio State is willing to sacrifice something fixable in exchange for intangibles that are either inherent in a player, or not.
"There are pitchers, and there are throwers," Buckeyes quarterback coach Tim Beck said. "Greg Maddux is one of the best pitchers ever in baseball, and I don't know how hard he threw a fastball.
"There's so much that goes into playing quarterback: Smart, leadership, toughness, accuracy, timing -- all of it. So there's sometimes guys who have exceptional arms and really zing it, but don't have those other characteristics. So you look at it and say what can you develop?"
Turning a quarterback into a leader when he's never been one before is tough. Developing the athletic ability required to run Meyer's offense from that position can be daunting if the player doesn't already possess those traits.
But changing a quarterback's delivery and improving his arm strength? That can be done over time.
Look at Barrett. There aren't the same concerns about his arm strength now that there were two years ago when he was rushed into the starting job. Remember his "weenie-arm" rant last year? Maybe those concerns will resurface when he takes his shot at the NFL and gets picked apart by pro scouts, but that's for later. Right now his arm is plenty strong enough, and he's a Heisman Trophy candidate.
Barrett's career trajectory is nearly exactly what Ohio State has in mind if it lands a quarterback with arm strength issues. Get him in, hope he doesn't have to play early, and build that arm around everything else the player has.
When Burrow was tossing his three touchdowns in the spring game, he wasn't zipping passes in there. But he was accurate. You start with that and build out.
"I don't have the best arm strength, so I better be good at putting some touch on the ball," Burrow said. "That's what I worked on in high school, putting touch on the ball and getting it over defenders. Now the next step is getting my arm strength up."
Barrett and Burrow are similar, highly ranked and capable but lacking in this one area. Haskins is either an outlier, or the beginning of a new trend in Ohio State's quarterback recruiting. We'll get a better idea of that when the Buckeyes are done chasing quarterbacks in 2017 and 2018.
Right now it seems they'll always be on the lookout for a Haskins, but also willing to take a Burrow.
Meyer has had success with guys like Burrow before, guys who are followed by questions about their throwing ability.
"A lot of people said Tim Tebow couldn't play quarterback, and he's the second leading passer in the history of college football," Meyer said. "A lot of people, believe or not, said Cam Newton couldn't play, but he had the other intangibles. We'll take Joe Burrow, who I think was damn near a state champion in basketball, a runner-up in football, just a competitor. That's what set him apart."
That's what makes the man considered one of the best recruiters in college football OK with passing on a quarterback who can throw the ball a mile.
Some things are more important.
"We've all seen what happens to the really skilled guy without the competitive spirit, it's awful," Meyer said. "Not only that, but it also destroys your team because at that position you have to have a competitor."