Check out the individual staff ballots and explanations for the cleveland.com football Top 25 going into Week 4 of the 2015 season.
CLEVELAND, Ohio – With the Nos. 1 and No. 2 teams losing in Week 3, the Northeast Ohio Media Group high school sports staff had to decide whether there needed to be a shake-up at the top of the new cleveland.com high school football Top 25.
Four out of six staffers voted to move St. Edward ahead of Mentor this week, while the other two voted to keep the top of the poll intact. Mentor lost to Cincinnati St. Xavier, 49-13, in Week 3, while St. Edward fell to St. Joseph Regional (N.J.), 22-20.
Also, Perry earned several votes this week after beating Madison, 27-26, knocking the Blue Streaks out of some ballots.
Voters are Tim Bielik, Nathaniel Cline, Matt Goul, Joe Noga, Scott Patsko and Robert Rozboril. Below are individual ballots for each voter, as well as an explanation on some of their decisions.
Share your take and/or your Top 25 in the comments section below.
Bielik's ballot
1. Mentor, 2. St. Edward, 3. St. Ignatius, 4. Midview, 5. Benedictine, 6. Avon, 7. Berea-Midpark, 8. Glenville, 9. Mayfield, 10. Stow, 11. Archbishop Hoban, 12. Brecksville, 13. St. Vincent-St. Mary, 14. Maple Heights, 15. Aurora, 16. Solon, 17. Nordonia, 18. Bedford, 19. Elyria, 20. Hudson, 21. Chardon, 22. Strongsville, 23. Lake Catholic, 24. North Olmsted, 25. Perry.
Bielik's ballot explanation
Despite losses by the top two teams in the poll, I kept the top two unchanged this week. Mentor's loss is understandable because of the emotions of it's Week 2 win against St. Ignatius and the 4-hour drive south to Cincinnati. Plus, Cincinnati St. Xavier is a strong contender for the Division I title. As Saturday's loss showed, St. Edward's schedule is unforgiving. But the good news is it won't leave Ohio any more the rest of the season. The biggest reason, however, that Mentor is still No. 1 is because I think a team should only move to No. 1 with a win, which St. Edward didn't do. The only change in the top 15 is a minor shuffling with St. Vincent-St. Mary and Maple Heights flipping spots. The Irish have a slightly better resume after a narrow win against Lake Catholic than the Mustangs, who have two wins against winless teams. The last spot in the top 10 was difficult to choose from despite Stow and Archbishop Hoban both being 3-0. The Bulldogs have scored 42 in every game this season, but the Knights have not allowed any points through three games. Two new teams enter the poll as Strongsville jumps up to No. 22 after back-to-back wins, and Perry joins at No. 25 after its win against Madison. The bottom six spots were tough choices to make. Ultimately, I kept Lake Catholic and North Olmsted in the top 25 despite tough, close losses. And it's tough to drop North Olmsted out after a triple-overtime loss against my No. 6 team after it just lost to my No. 4 team. The Eagles are 1-2, but they've played two of the best teams in the area. Lake Catholic hung with St. Vincent-St. Mary and fell short of a big upset. But those tough losses aren't enough to take them out of the poll this week.
Cline's ballot
1. St. Edward, 2. Mentor, 3. St. Ignatius, 4. Benedictine, 5. Midview, 6. Avon, 7. Berea-Midpark, 8. Mayfield, 9. Archbishop Hoban, 10. Glenville, 11. Stow, 12. St. Vincent-St. Mary, 13. Brecksville, 14. Maple Heights, 15. Nordonia, 16. Aurora, 17. Elyria, 18. Bedford, 19. Madison, 20. Solon, 21. Hudson, 22. North Olmsted, 23. Lake Catholic, 24. Strongsville, 25. Highland.
Cline’s ballot explanation
I voted for St. Edward No. 1 in my Top 25 ballot last week and I’m sticking with it again after Week 3. St. Edward took a tough 22-20 loss on Saturday, but still remains as one of the top teams in the Northeast Ohio. As for the rest of the Top 25, I’m voting Mentor and St. Ignatius at Nos. 2 and 3, respectively. I still see Mentor as the No. 2 team after topping St. Ignatius 63-56 in Week 2. The Wildcats’ shutout win against Valley Forge was nothing to motivate me to vote them any higher this week. My only other change in the top 10 is moving up Archbishop Hoban, which is outscoring opponents by at least 25 points. Quarterback Danny Clark is proving to be a key and consistent piece for the Knights. Hoban’s defense has allowed zero points. Hoban moving up drops Glenville and Stow down a spot despite wins this week. While no loss is good, North Olmsted’s loss to Avon in triple overtime was eye-catching. Madison picking up its first loss against Perry, 27-26, looked to be a close game, but not enough for me to move Madison or any other team this week.
Goul’s ballot
1. St. Edward, 2. Benedictine, 3. Mentor, 4. St. Ignatius, 5. Midview, 6. Berea-Midpark, 7. Mayfield, 8. Archbishop Hoban, 9. Avon, 10. St. Vincent-St. Mary, 11. Glenville, 12. Stow, 13. Brecksville, 14. Elyria, 15. Maple Heights, 16. Nordonia, 17. Aurora, 18. Solon, 19. Bedford, 20. Strongsville, 21. Hudson, 22. Perry, 23. Madison, 24. Lake Catholic, 25. Copley.
Goul’s ballot explanation
This week reminds me of when Ohio State made the national title game vs. LSU; enough teams losing at the top, who is No. 1? After sitting down, I realized the answer is much easier than I thought Saturday afternoon. St. Edward went on the road and nearly beat St. Joseph Regional. I wrote last week that St. Ed’s and Mentor could flip even if they both won out. My logic is considering the whole body of work, which changes from week to week. I would be hypocritical for not using that logic when both lose. Pound for pound, Benedictine, Midview, Berea-Midpark and Hoban would be my top four. However, strength of schedule (which includes school size) must be considered. I have no reservations about moving St. Edward up one spot despite a 22-20 loss, traveling across Pennsylvania and to New Jersey to face stiff competition. Another notable is dropping Avon after its 41-40 triple overtime thriller. This is not an indictment against the Eagles — teams four through 13 feel fluid. In fact, I’m leaning heavily toward picking Avon to beat Midview this week. Teams to watch outside the Top 25 are: Olmsted Falls, Chardon, Elyria Catholic and Highland.
Noga's ballot
1. St. Edward, 2. Mentor, 3. St. Ignatius, 4. Midview, 5. Benedictine, 6. Avon, 7. Berea-Midpark, 8. Stow, 9. Mayfield, 10. Brecksville, 11. Glenville, 12. Archbishop Hoban, 13. St. Vincent-St. Mary, 14. Aurora, 15. Maple Heights, 16. Nordonia, 17. Bedford, 18. Elyria, 19. Solon, 20. Notre Dame-Cathedral Latin, 21. Strongsville, 22. Kenston, 23. Lake Catholic, 24. Perry, 25. Madison.
Noga's ballot explanation
I had a real debate with myself about whether to move a team that lost this week up into the top spot, but that's exactly what I did. St. Edward appears to be the only one of the top three teams on my ballot willing to play enough defense to warrant the No. 1 spot. So the Eagles will stay there until a team comes along that can expose them for 56 or 63 points. I still have Midview ahead of Benedictine. Initially that move was made because of Midview's superior quarterback. But until we get clarity on Benedictine RB Decavilon Reese's status, the Bengals will stay put. Just like teams 3-18 on my ballot all did this week. Garfield Heights and North Olmsted dropped off the bottom of my ballot while Perry and Notre Dame-Cathedral Latin made their first appearances. The Pirates shocked rival Madison with 5-foot-7 sparkplug Josh Petrucelli leading the way against his former team, and the Lions upended their former coach, Ben Malbasa, and are rolling as they head into a showdown with Central Catholic.
Patsko’s ballot
1. St. Edward, 2. Mentor, 3. St. Ignatius, 4. Benedictine, 5. Avon, 6. Berea-Midpark, 7. Midview, 8. Stow, 9. Mayfield, 10. Archbishop Hoban, 11. St. Vincent-St. Mary, 12. Glenville, 13. Brecksville, 14. North Olmsted, 15. Nordonia, 16. Maple Heights, 17. Aurora, 18. Elyria, 19. Strongsville, 20. Lake Catholic, 21. Hudson, 22. Highland, 23. Solon, 24. Bedford, 25. Perry.
Patsko’s ballot explanation
Here’s what I wrote last season after St. Edward lost on the road to Cincinnati Elder in Week 4: “I kept St. Edward No. 1 despite Saturday's loss. I still think the Eagles are the best team in our coverage region. Losing by a touchdown on the road in Cincinnati doesn't change that. To me, the Top 25 should be a list of the best teams in Northeast Ohio. Strength of schedule and school size means a lot when you're ranking teams that (mostly) don't play each other.” That’s how I’m approaching this week’s ballot. Two of my top five teams lost, and another – Avon – escaped in triple OT. But they’re all staying put. I still think St. Edward is the best team in NE Ohio today. I think Mentor runs the table in the GCC. The Avon/Berea-Midpark/Midview jumble will sort itself out the next two weeks as they play each other. Benedictine is 3-0, and that’s great, but it doesn’t mean I think the Bengals could beat my top three teams. Glenville coach Ted Ginn Sr. likes to say that the scoreboard doesn’t always dictate the play of his team. I feel the same way about records when it comes to the Top 25. Elsewhere on my ballot, North Olmsted and Lake Catholic basically stay put after close losses to higher ranked teams. Madison falls out and Perry jumps in at No. 25.
Rozboril's ballot
1. Mentor, 2. St. Edward, 3. St. Ignatius, 4. Midview, 5. Benedictine, 6. Berea-Midpark, 7. Glenville, 8. Mayfield, 9. Stow, 10. St. Vincent-St. Mary, 11. Avon, 12. Brecksville, 13. Maple Heights, 14. Nordonia, 15. North Olmsted, 16. Bedford, 17. Hoban, 18. Aurora, 19. Elyria, 20. Solon, 21. Strongsville, 22. Highland, 23. Hudson, 24. Perry, 25. Madison.
Rozboril's ballot explanation
Keeping Mentor in the top spot after a big loss to St. Xavier on Friday was not an easy decision. I debated whether St. Edward should move ahead of the Cardinals. I decided against the logic that a team that lost by two points to one of the best teams in New Jersey (St. Joseph Regional) is better than another team that lost to one of the top teams in Ohio by more substantial margin. I kept Mentor and St. Edward in the top two spots because they earned them in past weeks but should the Cardinals falter in the near future, I could definitely see the Eagles sliding into the No. 1 spot in my ballot. St. Ignatius, Midview and Benedictine all won in Week 3 but not against opponents that seemed to warrant a leap ahead of the Cardinals and Eagles. That's enough about what didn't change in my ballot. What did change is I finally brought North Olmsted into the mix and in a very nice position after coming within one point of Avon, the Eagles' toughest opponent of the season to date by far, which slid back a couple spots in the process. I've bumped Strongsville up a spot after witnessing an impressive showing against Brush and Perry enters the mix this week just ahead of Madison, which the Pirates beat to earn some recognition. Lorain and Euclid slipped out of my ballot this week. Although both teams turned in Week 3 wins, neither victory was significant enough to keep them from getting knocked out of this week's ballot.
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