LeBron James or Clark Kellogg? Who was the best high school basketball player in The Plain Dealer's seven-country coverage area?
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CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Before the national player of the year honors and before four NBA MVP awards, LeBron James was a skinny high school sophomore, minutes away from tipoff for a game at Villa Angela-St. Joseph High School.
And the sprinkle of fans wanted to make sure James was aware of one of the all-time best prep players.
"His name is on the gym floor, so a lot of people were like, 'hey man, this is one of the guys that paved the way so make sure you recognize that,'" James told The Plain Dealer. "I definitely knew how big time Clark Kellogg was in high school. He paved the way for guys like myself."
Known for producing some of the best high school football players in the country, Northeast Ohio has also developed some top prep basketball players, and we're going to prove it as we announce The Plain Dealer All-Decade boys basketball teams in a week-long series on cleveland.com. We will rank the top 10 players from five different decades, starting with the 1960s and ending with the decade of 2000-2010. The All-Decade teams and stories will appear daily on cleveland.com this week.
Only players from The Plain Dealer's seven-county coverage area were eligible. The seven counties are Cuyahoga, Geauga, Lake, Lorain, Medina, Portage and Summit. The sole criteria was the player's achievements in high school; his college and/or professional career did not factor.
The selection panel is made up of 10 long-time area coaches, reporters, contributors. Moderated by Plain Dealer reporter Branson Wright, the selection committee includes Larry Chernauskas, Dan Coughlin, John D'Angelo, Harold "Doc" Daugherty, Chris Dennis, Pete Gaughan, Jermaine Gay, Jack Greynolds Jr., Tim Starkey and Bob Walsh.
Certainly, many fabulous players were left off the final list and our selections -- not to mention non-selections -- will spark enthusiastic debate. We encourage you to weigh in. Please do so in the comments in this story and the other stories with the PDAllDecades package this week.
The series runs daily on cleveland.com through Saturday. The top 10 players (in order) in each decade will be revealed.
Unlike our PD50 series where we revealed the top 50 high school football players, including the No. 1 overall selection in Robert Smith, the PD All-Decades basketball series leaves open the debate on which high school player was is the overall No. 1.
That debate for most basketball aficionados comes down to only two players -- James and Kellogg.
The discussion about which player is No. 1 provokes plenty of chatter.
"He was Mr. Basketball as a sophomore," said Dennis, who helped guide James early in his career. "Who does that?"
Added fan James Peterson: "Clark was one of the best players among the greatest high school class ever. We're talking about guys who are now in the hall of fame like Dominique Wilkins, Isiah Thomas and James Worthy."
Choosing between James and Kellogg is not only a tall order because they played in different eras, but also because they were similar in size (6-foot-8) and played similar styles.
"Remember, Clark played before the 3-point shot in high school and his game reflected that by the way he played," said former St. Joseph's High School coach Bob Straub. "It was more of an inside-out game and Clark had more rebounds. LeBron played more outside in an era with 3-point shots. No 3-pointers can make the game and the player a little different."
As a high school phenom, James played a well-rounded game at St. Vincent-St. Mary. He averaged 30 points, 9.7 rebounds and 4.9 assists and nearly three steals his senior season in 2003. James won three out of four state titles. He became the first player in Ohio to win three Mr. Basketball honors and he became a two-time national player of the year.
"LeBron played four straight years on a level that no one in the country played on," Dennis said. "He played with such poise and savvy as a young guy."
The stories about James' high school exploits are legendary. There was the showdown between James and Lenny Cooke during the ABCD camp after James' sophomore year. Cooke, a junior out of New York, was considered the best high school player in the country. Cooke was the defending MVP of the camp. James was an unknown nationally. The two players met in the championship game -- and a star was born.
"LeBron casually destroyed Lenny Cooke," Dennis said. "LeBron gave Cooke the entire arsenal of good passes, dunks, jump shots and good defense. If Lenny had the ball, LeBron would stop him. If LeBron had the ball, he'd either score or make a play."
The game went down to the last possession. James' team trailed by two and James had the ball. Guarded by Cooke, James dribbled to his right and nailed a 3-pointer at the buzzer for the victory. James outscored Cooke 24-9.
"Lenny left the court like he had seen a ghost," Dennis said. "That's where LeBron's reputation started. He was the best player on the biggest stage."
The following summer James participated in pickup games with several Cleveland Cavaliers and local college players. James played so well that Johnny Clark, a former player development coach for the Toronto Raptors, was more than impressed in how James played in the Gund Arena practice court 13 years ago.
"Instead of LeBron looking out of place being out there with NBA players, he looked like one of them," Clark said. "He fit right in."
Kellogg, a 1979 graduate, held his own during his career at St. Joseph's (now Villa Angela-St. Joseph) High School. Like James, Kellogg was a four-year starter with a well-rounded game. Kellogg could score, pass and defend.
But he was an exceptional rebounder. He averaged 16 rebounds and 21 points as a sophomore. He averaged 22 rebounds and 28 points as a junior, then 17 rebounds and 28 points as a senior.
"He was certainly the best high school player I've seen," Straub said.
Kellogg was named Ohio's Player of the Year after a record-setting senior season. Kellogg led the Vikings to the state final after a stellar performance in the semifinal where he nearly had a triple double in a victory over Cincinnati LaSalle.
"Everyone looks at the state final because Clark scored so many points, but I'm not sure if that was his best game," Straub said. "He did everything in that semifinal game. Clark tore that seven-foot center [Joe Gampfer] up."
Kellogg turned his game up even higher in the state final against Columbus East, but the Vikings trailed by 29 at the half.
"East played extremely well in the first half," Kellogg said. "We were down and I just started cranking it up."
Cranking it up indeed. Kellogg finished with 51 points, which remains a state final record, and he had 24 rebounds in the 9-point loss to Columbus East.
"I get reminded of that game every year because those points are a little blurb in the program," Kellogg said. "It's bittersweet. It would've been sweeter if we could have hung up that championship banner."
Despite a championship void, Kellogg remains the king of high school basketball, especially in the Cleveland area. James, who selects himself as the No. 1 overall high school player in the PDAllDecades list, understands where the lines are drawn when it comes to the best.
"It's like in music, someone may say Biggie is better than Jay Z," James said. "Someone may say Curtis Mayfield or Marvin Gaye is better than R. Kelly. It all depends on which era you grew up in. People that never saw Clark in high school may not understand how good he was, but I'm a historian of the game and I know what he did."
Kellogg also knew what kind of player James was in high school, so much so, that Kellogg said he appreciates the passionate support he still receives from local fans, but he's clear who was the better high school player.
"There's something about the folks in Cleveland when you represent them in sports and in life on how they make you feel special," Kellogg said. "So I don't have a problem with those who put me on the top of the list and I appreciate it. But if I was saying who's number one, I'd give it to LeBron."
Kellogg gives James the nod because of his basketball IQ and his athleticism.
"But I would not take a backseat to anyone in terms of making plays, passing, catching, handling the ball, shooting and rebounding," Kellogg said. "I don't have any problems saying I was one of the best in Northeast Ohio. I'm honored."
Clark Kellogg
School: St. Joseph's High School
Graduated: 1979
Position: Forward
Notable: Kellogg holds the state tournament record with 51 points in the championship game. He was voted Ohio Player of the Year his senior season. He had 30 or more rebounds in a game multiple times during his career. He averaged 28 points and 22 rebounds as a junior and 28 points and 17 rebounds as a senior.
Present: College basketball studio analyst for CBS Sports.
LeBron James
School: St. Vincent-St. Mary High School
Graduated: 2003
Position: Forward
Notable: James became the first junior to win national player of the year (he also won his senior year) and the first Ohio native to win Mr. Basketball three times. James led his team to three state titles. He averaged 31.6 points, 9.6 rebounds and 4.6 assists his senior season.
Present: Returned to the Cavaliers for his 12th NBA season.