The weekly mailbag is full of questions for beat writer Tony Grossi.
David I. Andersen, The Plain DealerC'mon ... who could possibly forget Spurgon Wynn? After all, the Browns chose him instead of an available Michigan quarterback by the name of Brady in the 2000 draft. Hey, Tony: Can you think of another Browns team about which fans' opinions changed so much from week to week? -- Paul Thiel, Crescent Springs, Ky.
Hey, Paul: Good one. No.
Hey, Tony: Me and my boy were talking about starting QBs for the Browns since 1999. We came up with eight off the top of our heads. I know there has to be more. Help me out and name them all and the year they started games in. -- Scott Harley, Parma
Hey, Scott: The Sweet Sixteen roll call: Ty Detmer (1999), Tim Couch (1999-03), Doug Pederson (2000), Spergon Wynn (2000), Kelly Holcomb (2002-04), Jeff Garcia (2004), Luke McCown (2004), Trent Dilfer (2005), Charlie Frye (2005-07), Derek Anderson (2006-09), Ken Dorsey (2008), Brady Quinn (2008-09), Bruce Gradkowski (2008), Jake Delhomme (2010), Seneca Wallace (2010), Colt McCoy (2010-11).
Hey, Tony: After four weeks of tape, what is your revised prediction for the Browns' final win-loss record? I think they will be lucky to win six games. The defense looks improved excluding last week, but the offense once again looks utterly incapable of making up a sizeable deficit. December looks brutal. Give me a reason to believe otherwise. --Greg Stelz, Durango, Colo.
Hey, Gref: Until proven wrong, I'll stick with my preseason prediction of 7-9. Don't ask me to name the five games they win, though.
Hey, Tony: What do you think of a compromise to the new kickoff rule? How about adding that if the kick flies out of the end zone and cannot be returned, the ball is placed at the 35-yard line. This would at least give the receivers a chance at a return. -- Peter Freed, Erie, Pa.
Hey, Peter: Like it. But coaches would persuade their owners to vote against it. In the NFL, rules changes are voted on. They aren't just implemented by the rules committee.
Hey, Tony: Can you put people at ease? One, how many games do people think the Browns are gonna win with a first-year coach and no real camps? Two, what are (fans) expecting from McCoy being that this should be considered his rookie season and add in the ending from the first point? Three, I expected the Browns to be 2-2 at this point of the season, who could seriously think better? Seriously, Cleveland Clinic is gonna see an increase in cardio patients. -- Niko Bencun, Stephenson, Mich.
Hey, Niko: This is the cumulative effect of losing year after year after year.
Hey, Tony: 1.) Do you see Evan Moore being used more after the bye? It seems to me they need to be able to stretch the field and I think Moore could help the running game by getting the safety out of the box. 2.) How has Pinkston graded out at guard through the first four games? I know Week One was a little tough on him, but I haven't heard his name mentioned since then ... which I think is good, if he's not being mentioned, he's not making glaring mistakes. -- Andy, Richmond, Va.
Hey, Andy: 1.) The coach said he intends to get Moore some action after the bye. 2.) Jason Pinkston, according to the coach, improves each week. I think there will be an effort to expand his game and actually lead some sweeps by pulling. Eric Steinbach was good at that and the Browns really need to try to get their backs to the perimeter more.
Joshua Gunter, The Plain DealerPeyton Hillis didn't get all that many carries two weeks ago against the Titans? Has anyone heard about that? Or his contract talks? Anyone? Anyone? Hey, Tony: Please pass on to the Browns organization that most fans find the Peyton Hillis contract situation ridiculous. Between the contract situation and benching him, it looks as though they are heading in another direction. That will be the last straw for a lot of fans, including me. I will root for whatever team Hillis ends up on, even if it is the Steelers. I would gladly fire Mike Holmgren, Tom Heckert and Pat Shurmur if it means keeping Hillis. -- Jared Pelcic, Elyria
Hey, Jared: You value Hillis more than Holmgren, Heckert and Shurmur combined? Wow. Hillis for mayor of Elyria!
Hey, Tony: I know Tom Heckert has final say over roster moves and ultimately made the decision, but could you tell me who within the organization originally had the idea and suggested that Peyton Hillis be included in the deal that sent Brady Quinn to Denver? -- Brent Lare, Lorain
Hey, Brent: The way the trade was portrayed was that Eric Mangini and Heckert both liked Hillis and wanted him included. I do know that from the start, Mangini talked up Hillis -- even before Hillis emerged as an offensive force. I think Heckert viewed Hillis as a good backup player who exceeded his expectations. Mangini, I believe, put a much greater value on Hillis as a feature back.
Hey, Tony: Why is everyone making such a big deal about Hillis sitting out a couple weeks ago? It's a complete non-issue. The Browns won the game! The running game wasn't hurt at all. In fact, I think Montario Hardesty had the best rushing performance by a Brown so far this season. Also, why isn't this illness being chalked up to the "Madden Curse?" Hahaha. -- Clint Mayo, Wichita, Kan.
Hey, Clint: I agree that "strep throat-gate" should be put to rest. The issue moving forward is whether or not the Browns and Hillis agree on a new contract.
Hey, Tony: If the Browns and Hillis do not come to an agreement on a contract extension, will the Browns be able to put any kind of tender on him so there is some kind of compensation when his contract ends this year? I do not believe he is worth the franchise tag. -- Darrin Demshar, Jefferson, Ohio
Hey, Darrin: If no new contract is signed, Hillis will be an unrestricted free agent after the season. The Browns will get nothing in return if he walks.
Hey, Tony: Until the offensive line's pass protection and run blocking is improved, it will be unfair to judge the play of Colt McCoy and the running backs. -- Patrick Nardini, Sault Ste. Marie, Mich.
Hey, Patrick: I think it is fair to judge McCoy over the span of 16 games this year. That would give him 24 career starts. No quarterback gets perfect protection all the time. The offensive line isn't the best ever to line up, but it certainly isn't the worst.
Hey, Tony: Like every other Browns fan, I am impatient for the team to be successful, and I am looking for signs of hope. This year's team is struggling, but at least it's young and (hopefully) has an upside. The core of the team is made up of young players. The past several years, we seemed to be crappy and the team was a bunch of veterans. I don't think this team can be picked to win any game this year; its just not at that point yet. But they are heading in the right direction for next year. Is this a reasonable view, or am I whistling past the graveyard of another season ... and coaching regime? -- David King, Joelton, Tenn.
Hey, David: I would agree with you. It's a reasonable view of the current state of the team.
Hey, Tony: You've mentioned Colt McCoy's arm strength as a possible concern. I am starting to see that defenses, since they're not afraid of getting beat over the top, are cheating up and jamming the Cleveland running game and intermediate passing routes. Can the Browns scheme around this or at some point do you need a QB with the arm strength to make a D pay for cheating up on him? One more question. I know McCoy is effective on the move, but at some point, don't you have to make throws from the pocket so that you're not always playing on half a football field? That seems to be a limitation, too (but I know the shaky O-line play has been part of this). -- Jeff Biletnikoff, Erie, Pa.
Hey, Jeff: I think the Browns can scheme to compensate for McCoy's arm strength to a degree. I have maintained that to take the team to the Super Bowl, McCoy will have to make some throws at some point in a season which, frankly, I don't think he is capable of making. I also agree with your point about throwing on the run. It's great to be able to do that on occasion, but a quarterback has to conduct most of his business from the pocket to effectively beat a defense.
Hey, Tony: While I am a fan of the Belichick/Mangini style of football, I'm more a fan of not changing systems every full moon. I simply want you to answer the question of how Mangini de-emphasized the QB position. -- Mike B, Dover, Ohio
Hey, Mike: You are a relentless defender of Mangini. Mangini stated in words, and certainly demonstrated in his actions, that the quarterback was not the most important position on the field. If you examine his five years as head coach -- three with the Jets and two here -- he almost always had quarterback "issues." The really good coaches are really good managers of the quarterback position. I don't believe Mangini is particularly good at managing the position.
Hey, Tony: I have been a fan for over 50 years and I don't think that I am owed a great team. I think this administrative staff is making and will continue to make progress in elevating the organization. Most people look for a quick fix and there are precious few of those out there. -- Steve Landram, Saint Cloud, Fla.
Hey, Steve: Keep the faith. Everyone will want to be there when they turn it around.
Hey, Tony: What is it with the Browns and Hillis' contract? They did the same thing with Josh Cribbs and Phil Dawson. Is this a game they like to play with the players? -- John Smith, Akron
Hey, John: I thought the present regime was very kind to Cribbs, who had three more years left on his contract. On Dawson, I just don't think they value a kicker too highly on a team still struggling to score. As for Hillis, they may see his role changing as Montario Hardesty develops and they don't want to sign him to a contract they will regret in a year. It's the business of football.
Hey, Tony: Where did Auston English go after roster cutoff? -- Jack Moore, Canadian, Texas
Hey, Jack: English immediately was signed to the Browns' practice squad. In that capacity, he was able to attend all meetings and participate in all practices. That is why he should be able to contribute when called on.
Joshua Gunter, The Plain DealerFor a guy who led the Browns to twice as many losses as wins, Eric Mangini has a persistent band of supporters each week in Hey, Tony! Hey, Tony: Let's compare this year's Jets with last year's Browns and ultimately Shurmur vs. Mangini. Last year the Browns had the one of the toughest schedules in the league and almost beat three (Jets is the almost team) playoff teams. This year the Jets with their franchise QB Sanchez are now 2-3 (they should be 1-4 but the Cowboys gave them a game). Mangini gave them that franchise QB and on paper the Jets seem to be a much more talented team than the Browns. Fast forward to this year and the Mangini-less Browns have a very easy schedule for the first eight games. Can you still look at the big picture and say Mangini wasn't "The Browns' Next Bill Belichick?" -- Rick DelPrado, Middletown, Conn.
Hey, Rick: I suppose you can analyze the situations frame by frame and cite several areas in which Mangini was quite good. I would agree with that. You can also cite specific games -- or specific parts of games -- in which his Browns functioned exceptionally well. You can also weigh the strength of the schedules he played against and measure the quality of his rosters. Ultimately, head coaches are judged on their record and 10-22 was simply not good enough. His two Browns teams were unspectacular, inconsistent and old. I don't think I'm breaking new ground here.
Hey, Tony: Maybe the Browns organization was right about Lawrence Vickers' catching ability because if you watch the highlights of the Texans game, he drops a wide-open catch that would've gone for a touchdown. -- Malek, Cleveland
Hey, Malek: OK. So don't throw the rock to him.
Hey, Tony: I now live in Boston, which is the pinnacle of overreacting sports fans. Every time the Patriots have a bad game fans clamor for a fire sale and to let the rebuilding begin. With all this nonsense about if McCoy is a failure because he's been mediocre in four games, are Cleveland fans vying for Boston's title? -- Greg Kerr, Boston
Hey, Greg: Cleveland fans retired that trophy long ago.
Hey, Tony: I grew up in Euclid and lived there for my first 35 years. I was 12 when the Browns won their last championship. Now I am a die-hard Browns fan in a black and gold neighborhood. It's tough. Anyway ... what happened to Carlton Mitchell? I thought he was in the plans for this year. -- Greg Miheli, New Castle, Pa.
Hey, Greg: Mitchell's demise was a broken finger in training camp. It robbed him of the chance to move up the depth chart. Once the regular season begins and all attention is focused on preparing for the next game, it's extremely difficult for a young player to work himself back into prominence unless an unforeseen circumstance (injury, trade, etc.) opens the door of opportunity.
Hey, Tony: Since Colt McCoy was one of the most accurate passers in the NCAA in the spread, why not incorporate some of that in our West Coast offense? Defenses wouldn't be able to stack line to deter the run, our WRs are some of the best run-blocking WRs in the league, It would help settle our offensive line and it would help create a rhythm for the offense. That's all Carolina is doing for Cam Newton. At some point we have to put our players in a position to succeed. P.S. Free Marcus Bernard & Evan Moore! -- Jason, Bedford Heights
Hey, Jason: The easiest way to duplicate McCoy's success at Texas would be to schedule Baylor, Oklahoma State, UTEP and other college teams. But of course, that is folly.
Hey, Tony: I was disgusted with most of the submissions last week. We are four weeks into the season, and already the naysayers are up in arms. Anyone who thought this offense would be running smoothly was dreaming. Anyone who thinks they are better than Holmgren at evaluating McCoy's ability is delusional. Let's all take a deep breadth and let the season play out. -- Mitch Schwartz, Fairfield, Calif.
Hey, Mitch: I don't have a pithy response.
Hey, Tony: I'm heading to Cleveland for the Seahawks game and a three-day weekend. What are your suggestions for top three can't-miss things to do in Cleveland? Best burger in town? -- Paul Marston, Seattle
Hey, Paul: One dinner in Little Italy. Visit the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame or one of the splendid museums at University Circle. A round of golf at Sleepy Hollow from the tips (weather permitting, of course). Bonus activity: Take a hike in the Metroparks and admire the fantastic fall colors.
Hey, Tony: Whether it was Dabol's system or Shurmur's, I'm baffled at the number of pass attempts to our TEs versus WRs. Is is simply that our WRs can't beat man coverage and/or find holes in the zone and our TEs can? -- Scott C, Sarasota, Fla.
Hey, Scott: Although the number of receptions by wide receivers are up over last year, I expected more of a difference in the position in the new offense. There's still time for that to happen and I expect there will be an emphasis on getting the ball to Greg Little, Mohamed Massaquoi and Josh Cribbs in the coming games.
Hey, Tony: It's fair to say that the Browns got absolutely trounced by the Titans. The very next week, the Titans played a Steelers team that had taken a great deal of national criticism. This aged and criticized Steeler team crushed the Titans. Is this connection between teams at all an indicator of where the Browns sit in relation to the Steelers? -- Scott Yehl, Princeton, N.J.
Hey, Scott: Have the Browns closed the gap on the defending AFC Champions? No. How far apart are they? We will see when the teams meet twice in December.
Hey, Tony: Do you feel that Mangini set this franchise back with his trades, FA pick-ups and draft selections? Secondly, how far away do you think the Browns are from contending for the AFC North title, a playoff spot, or even a winning season? It just seems teams go from bad to Super Bowl contenders in just two or three years, but I don't see the Browns being a SB contender anytime soon. -- Alex Lawhorn, Hillsboro, Ohio
Hey, Alex: The 2009 Browns draft was an unfortunate leap backwards. As far as contending, if Colt McCoy picks up his game, and Tom Heckert has another outstanding draft in 2012, the team should be in good shape. If McCoy proves not to be the guy by the end of this year, you can not consider the Browns contenders for anything until they find a quarterback.
Hey, Tony: The Philadelphia Eagles have started 1-4. Is there any talk around the league that the Eagles miss Tom Heckert? They sure look different in terms of talent level. -- Tim Schag, Lake Elsinore, Calif.
Hey, Tim: Andy Reid makes all the major personnel decisions in Philadelphia. Always did when Heckert was there, too.
Hey, Tony: I always try to look at contract negotiations from both sides. I understand Peyton Hillis is "only" making $600K but he has had one big season thus far. Though I agree a raise and extension is due (and am hoping one is reached), don't you feel Hillis's bellyaching and whining to the media is growing a bit old? -- Joshua Jones, Fullerton, Calif.
Hey, Joshua: I know there are people who agree with you.
Hey, Tony: Is it possible we didn't and aren't going to draft or sign any offensive weapons until we find out what QB we will build around? Could this be hurting our development or evaluation of a QB if we don't supply him with the proper tools? Could the WRs we have prosper with another QB or scheme? I thought the WCO would help the WRs, but I think I'm wrong. -- Eliot Clasen, Cape Coral, Fla.
Hey, Eliot: I am weary from over-analyzing the receiver situation. I wish they would bring in a blue-chip player at the position to put us all out of our misery.
Hey, Tony: Count me in the small group of Browns fans who is against giving Hillis a very lucrative long-term deal. I love the way he plays and there is no doubt he is very good running back. However, he is not Adrian Peterson, Chris Johnson, MJD or even Ray Rice. He is not a game breaker and he takes a physical beating meaning he won't last long. I would like to see the Browns give a substantial but reasonable three- to four-year deal. Like they did with Cribbs. -- Ryan F, Behind Enemy Lines, Md.
Hey, Ryan: I am uncomfortable injecting myself into negotiations between a player and team. I will just say that there are two sides to every story and we have not really heard either side when it comes to details of the negotiations.
AP fileSome Browns fans want to compare Bills quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick to the Browns' Colt McCoy, but they forget that Fitzpatrick has been in the NFL for seven years. Hey, Tony: Don't you think the play of the Buffalo Bills should give some of the negative Cleveland fans hope? They've gone from third worse last year to 4-1 so far this year. Both have similar quarterbacks -- small, smart with average arms. The Browns also have extra first- and fourth-round picks. The Eagles' woes after signing all those high-priced free agents also indicates the Browns are going about trying to build a winner the right way. Also, I'm not sure I understand the thought that Peyton Hillis' value to the team has diminished because of the West Coast offense. He catches the ball well and a big power back with good speed is not easily found. I think he's the face of the team right now, a real blue collar player. Lastly, can the Browns put a franchise tag on him if they couldn't sign him? -- Paul Naudain, Portland, Ore.
Hey, Paul: 1. The comparison of McCoy to Ryan Fitzpatrick fails to point out two things. Fitzpatrick has been in the league seven years, McCoy is going on two. Fitzpatrick also is 6-2 and 230 pounds -- 1 1/2 inches taller and about 15 pounds heavier than McCoy. 2. I agree that the Browns are much better with Hillis on the team. But you must understand that Hillis and his agent have certain financial goals they want to reach and they may not be in concert with what the Browns want to pay. 3. Putting the franchise tag on Hillis would mean a one-year guaranteed contract of about $9 million. I don't think that is in the cards.
Hey, Tony: Is arm strength something a QB can improve from certain workouts or is it just one of those things when either you have it or you don't? -- Stan I, Solon
Hey, Stan: Mike Holmgren has said arm strength can be improved. I believe, at the NFL level, either you have it or you don't.
Hey, Tony: Is there an inside story as to why Peyton Hillis hasn't been re-signed yet? Seems to be a no-brainer. -- Greg Dineen, Middletown, Ohio
Hey, Greg: Reasons the Browns might not want to break the bank for Hillis: 1. Not a breakaway runner. 2. Durability issues. 3. One proven season. 4. Montario Hardesty. 5. Future direction of the offense.
Hey, Tony: Please rank the starting quarterbacks for the AFC North and why you rank them at each spot. -- Dennis Stallworth, University Heights
Hey, Dennis: 1. Ben Roethlisberger: As tough as they come, hard to bring down, makes plays in the clutch, proven leader. 2. Joe Flacco: Big arm, still developing, lacking the signature win to move him into the next class. 3. (tie) Colt McCoy: Admirable intangibles, impressive work ethic, able to make plays out of the pocket, needs to be more accurate, can't make all the throws. 3. (tie) Andy Dalton: Only five games into his career, is winning while developing, shows many important qualities.
Hey, Tony: Will the Browns be patient with Colt McCoy or is this a "show me" season? -- Gary Putz, Webster, N.Y.
Hey, Gary: My gut is they will be patient, but McCoy better show something over the next 12 games.
Hey, Tony: So here we are, another season and another club making a complete 180-degree turn while the Browns look about the same as ever (I'm thinking 2-2 is more about the level of teams we've faced than our ability). San Francisco is looking like a fine football team and off to their best start in years, and they have a new coach, new offense, and just like the Browns had very little off-season to prepare. What are the major advantages you think the 49ers held before this season started (if any), and do you think team management understands the true frustration of the Cleveland fans? -- Doug Shaffer, Orange, Calif.
Hey, Doug: The 49ers have been collecting quality players on defense for years. I am surprised that new coach Jim Harbaugh has quarterback Alex Smith playing at a level he has never approached before. Also, Frank Gore is a premier running back. He fits perfectly for the tough, physical attitude Harbaugh wants, as evidenced by his teams at Stanford. As for Browns management, I think it understands the true frustration of Browns fans. Just look at the empty seats in Cleveland Browns Stadium.
Hey, Tony: I was skeptical of your comments that the Browns need a playmaking wide receiver until I watched our local college football team. While last year San Diego State possessed a potent offense, this year the offense is underwhelming. Basically all the players came back on offense except the wide receivers, who both made pro. (Brady Hoke left also -- beware all OSU fans, he is good!) I realize now that a quality receiver can make an average offense and quarterback look great. -- John Hurlburt, San Diego, Calif.
Hey, John: The Browns have to upgrade the receiver position.
Hey, Tony: I'm glad to see that Greg Little is a starter now. 1) Do you think that Shurmur will continue the crazy amount of rotations on offense now that we're past the bye week? 2) When will Carlton Mitchell get some playing time? -- Jamey Majoros, Concord
Hey, Jamey: 1. No. 2. Mitchell is fading into obscurity. He needs a break -- an unforeseen opportunity and then he needs to capitalize on it.
Hey, Tony: There has been much talk about how Evan Moore is a good pass-catching tight end but a poor blocker. Considering the team's glaring need at wide receiver, why don't they simply make him a full-time wide receiver? His size would make him a matchup nightmare for corners, especially in the red zone. -- Rob Hill, York Township
Hey, Rob: Moore already is used as a wideout in many situations. Keeping him as a tight end affords him some mismatches that would not be available if he lined up as a receiver all the time. In other words, he can beat safeties and linebackers. Good cornerbacks, however, would disrupt his route-running and cover him fairly easily.
Hey, Tony: Ravens' center Matt Birk was fined for removing his microphone during the game last week. I never knew centers were required to wear them. Could you explain why they wear them and why the league would fine a player for not wearing it? -- Justin Mitchell, Rio Rancho, N.M.
Hey, Justin: Apparently, the league is bowing to its network partners and requiring a few linemen on each team to wear a microphone to enhance audio for TV broadcasts. That should tell you everything you need to know about the league's priorities.
Hey, Tony: Since the new stadium, the Browns have not displayed any replays that were controversial. This suppresses and stifles fan game excitement. Can't the Browns see the negative affect this has on the crowd? -- Dick Ellison, Silver Lake
Hey, Dick: I don't know if I agree. I've seen some controversial plays on replay. Every play that is challenged by replay review is shown.
-- Tony