Browns coach Mike Pettine re-iterated that Josh McCown is still the likely starter on opening day, but he cautioned that it's still early.
BEREA, Ohio -- The No. 2 on Johnny Manziel's back still matches his spot on the depth chart heading into camp, but coach Mike Pettine made no guarantees Monday that Josh McCown will be his opening day starter.
"The repetitions will (still) be handled that way, with Josh as the one,'' Pettine said in an informal meeting with beatwriters. "Now, I wouldn't say I'm guaranteeing today that Josh McCown is going to be the starter against the Jets. A lot can happen in a preseason. If guys are getting the two's reps and all of a sudden they're playing really well and the guy with the starters, you're maybe not pleased with --- and you start to mix those reps as we go on.
"At all positions, it's a fluid situation. But for now, if we had a game this weekend, he'd be the starter, but I'm not going to commit beyond that.''
Pettine said he's essentially saying the same thing he did in May, when he declared McCown the favorite to start the season. But he left the door open a crack for Manziel to surprise everyone nonetheless.
"I wouldn't rule it out (Manziel starting), but if I had to say 'will Josh McCown likely be our day one starter' to answer that question, I would say he would likely be, but I don't want to say he is,'' said Pettine. "I don't want to guarantee it.''
Pettine indicated that the starter will be evident by the about the second or third preseason game. Typically, the third exhibition game is dress rehearsal for the opener, which is Sept. 13 on the road against the New York Jets.
"I really haven't given it that much thought,'' said Pettine. "I'm just ready for camp to get going....I think you'll have a pretty good sense of who are starters are going to be once we get to preseason weeks 2 and 3.
Pettine was encouraged by the fact that Manziel sought help last week from quarterback expert and ESPN analyst Jon Gruden, who saw the magic in Manziel at Texas A&M and reportedly urged the Raiders to draft him in the first round of the 2014 draft. The quarterbacks reported to camp Monday and will practice with the full squad for the first time on Thursday, when camp opens to the public.
"I think it's positive,'' said Pettine. "Anytime you have a player that wants to during his downtime seek out somebody that is well-respected in the business to want to improve himself, I don't know how many players in the league went for extra work. This was vacation time for a lot of guys. So the fact that he sought out Jon and went down there and worked with him and was thinking about football. to me, I see that as nothing but a positive.''
Pettine said he's seen progress in Manziel despite the fact he's learning John DeFilippo's new scheme.
"He made some real positive steps, but I think it's hard to do that when you're learning a new system,'' he said. "We're not in pads. A lot of the stuff Flip was running weren't even necessarily things he would call in a game. ...So I would say he did a heckuva lot more good things in the spring than he did bad things and I think we'll see that improvement.
"Hopefully we see that improvement from the whole quarterback room. I'm very confident in Flip and (quarterbacks coach) Kevin O'Connell, the guys coaching them, and time will tell. That group's going to be coached hard. it'll be upsetting if they're not improving as a group as the camp goes on.''
Pettine said that while Manziel is the clearcut No. 2, there is no set No. 3 or No. 4 with Connor Shaw and Thad Lewis.
"That spot will essentially be earned through play,'' Pettine said.
Pettine didn't grapple much with keeping McCown, a 12-year veteran, ahead of Manziel coming out of the offseason. The tape showed he's clearly ahead of the former Heisman Trophy winner. He's also passed for almost 11,000 more NFL yards.
"I'd say there is just from an experience standpoint,'' said Pettine. "I think they both have it in their skillset to help us win games. I think it's different. Josh's skillset obviously is very different from Johnny's and we would have to tailor the gameplan just like you would to any other quarterback. What does he do well? What plays in our inventory do we want to highlight when he's in there? What ones do we want to stay away from? But I think having been with Flip before and having been in NFL offenses, I just think from an experience standpoint he's that much further ahead.''
Pettine acknowledged that it's hard to compare the the two passers.
"Manziel just from a mobility standpoint, I think some of the stuff that puts him on the run, the sprint passes, the boot passes, even some of the quarterback run stuff (is his skillset), whereas McCown is more of your traditional pocket passer,'' said Pettine. "But when you say that, when you've watched him play, I think he's a better athlete than people give him credit for. Not that we would run quarterback runs with him in there or put him on the move as much, but it's something that he's certainly capable of.''
Pettine agreed with DeFilippo that Manziel must improve his accuracy. During camp last year and offseason practices this year, Manziel has put far too many balls on the ground.
"To play quarterback in the NFL, you have to be accurate,'' said Pettine. "That's what Flip and Kevin talk about all the time: strike-point accuracy. And that's something that we want to increase with all of our quarterbacks. You've also got to look at the situation sometimes. Who he's throwing to? Was the route wrong? Was the ball dropped? How accurate was it? So our numbers probably might end up being different than just kind of the 'hey was it complete, was it not complete.' So we have a way of evaluating it, but it's important. You have to be accurate in the NFL because as we all know, the windows to throw in are much tighter.''
He vowed not to scrutinize Manziel just because he spent 10 weeks in inpatient rehab at an addiction treatment center in the offseason. So far, Manziel's had a quiet summer, except for one bottle-throwing incident that was seemingly overblown.
"We're not going to micromanage our players,'' Pettine said. "We felt very comfortable with his plan and we weren't going to hover over him and make sure he was doing the right thing. He's a professional athlete. The position coaches here and there, they keep tabs on their guys and I did not spend one day of my vacation, it never popped into my head, 'hmmm, I wonder where Johnny is right now and what he's doing?'''
For the Browns, that's a good sign. And a major prerequisite for No. 2 someday becoming No. 1.
Pettine addressed a number of other issues during the 40-minute session:
* He said he won't rule out Terrelle Pryor as a quarterback down the road, but "I want him to focus 1,000 percent on receiver.''
* On Pryor making the switch from quarterback to receiver: "From an athletically-gifted skillset (standpoint) I think he can do it.''
* On Pryor trying tight end too: "Given how the league has changed, that line has really blurred.''
* On Justin Gilbert rebounding from his rough rookie season: "So far so good. It falls into the 'time will tell' category.''
* On the report of a rift between him and general manager Ray Farmer: "We're singing out of the same hymnal. To say there's a rift or a tug of war or a power struggle, that would be completely inaccurate.''
* He said rookie Vince Mayle (surgically-repaired thumb) will be able to catch passes from day one and that center Alex Mack will be full-go for camp.
* On his own job security: "I don't think about it.''
* On everyone picking the Browns to finish fourth in the division: "One had us fifth.''